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Post by Robin van Bergkamp on Jul 8, 2012 17:33:47 GMT
His favourite place - the bargain basement I mean. It was reported that yet again Arsene said his focus would be on bargain buys and youth. If you give him his dues that those bargain offers and youthful buys have given us exciting football and the opportunity to touch the hemp of a CL place then yes, it's money well spent. Against that of course I think you could offer a reasonable argument that attribute Arsenal's lack of silverware to the presence of youth and bargain buys. When the youth come good, they leave and the bargain buys can only bring in so much otherwise they wouldn't remain on the bargain shelves for long. Arsene said but I would perhaps offer the suggestion that there may be reason the players in their prime wish to do it elsewhere and it is precisely because they see the bargain buys not being able to complete that final furlong that they leave. By Arsene refuses to see it that way since he says his work is destroyed by others. Sounds to me like once gain he's saying it's someone else's fault the players want to leave. Here we go again..... same old, same old. When considering how much of a role Arsene plays in our fall from contention I would have to say, quite a heck of a lot because this experiment of his, the bargain buys and youth which he is sticking to, really doesn't work since he is unable to keep his players. Arsene should factor into his equation that we have become a selling club. Y'know the one I mean - Mr G's sustainable model. Unless you change that, there is no light at the end of the tunnel  |
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Post by pneawf on Jul 8, 2012 17:37:01 GMT
For the price of Pod and Giroud we could have bought world class.......
If RvP was staying why would need both Pod and Giroud?
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Post by Robin van Bergkamp on Jul 8, 2012 17:42:27 GMT
For the price of Pod and Giroud we could have bought world class....... If RvP was staying why would need both Pod and Giroud? Perhaps they felt or knew there was a chance he would be leaving. If RvP was going to stay I think there would have been more earlier positive signs of this. I still don't blame him for wanting to consider new pastures and look at the failure of our policy which lacks sporting ambition which has made him and others leave. Now if they didn't think he was leaving then perhaps they brought them in to provide the cover we had been lacking last season when RvP was relied upon that little too much or indeed much too much. Or perhaps they were hedging their bets. Whatever is the case it doesn't look like there will be change in the way the guardians of our club approach the game. How I wish those who had the shares hadn't sold out to Silent Stan. |
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Post by Bergkamp a Dutch master on Jul 8, 2012 18:03:36 GMT
AW has followed a brilliant strategy where all others are roughly equal at the starting gate.
Now several seasons of dreadful luck with our injuries, and the money-men buying supremacy, has left us adrift of the top boys. I have no confidence in Fin Fair Play levelling the playing field.
Now back to Club ownership and valuation - Silent Stan just loves it.
I bet every year he could sell out for oodles of more money. Thats his ambition - financial worth - not ultimate success on the playing field. He and the Board have a miracle worker in AW.
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Post by Robin van Bergkamp on Jul 8, 2012 18:20:15 GMT
AW has followed a brilliant strategy where all others are roughly equal at the starting gate. Now several seasons of dreadful luck with our injuries, and the money-men buying supremacy, has left us adrift of the top boys. I have no confidence in Fin Fair Play levelling the playing field. Now back to Club ownership and valuation - Silent Stan just loves it. I bet every year he could sell out for oodles of more money. Thats his ambition - financial worth - not ultimate success on the playing field. He and the Board have a miracle worker in AW. Nothing lasts forever. Arsene will leave before long and what'll happen then? If we start to lose out on gate receipts as we slip away from being a competitive club, we will also certainly lose out on appearance money and on selling trinkets to the far east because they won't want to buy t-shirts of a failing club. I never thought we would be in such a situation. The likes of that fink Gazidis and his silent master should be hauled up for their negligence and greed. But at that juncture I wonder too if £6.5m+ makes for a manager willing to buy into a grand plan that only keeps the club in contention while the wealth of it's majority shareholder rises beyond expectations or should that be in line with... |
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Post by Jayramfootball on Jul 8, 2012 19:11:06 GMT
I think there is little chance of Wenger staying beyond 2014, and I do think he should be sent off with a warm goodbye for what he did in his early years, but make no mistake if he does not win a title in the next 2 years I would consider it a decade of failure from Wenger to end his career at Arsenal.
The bargain basement strategy has not worked... But we should also recognise that it's not money that has caused our failure. It's our development of players, the strange decisions to play players out of position, the awful defending, and a bad run of injuries that cannot be down to luck alone, and the persistence with players who never were and never will be good enough for Arsenal.
When confronted with a toad like Gazidis it's sometimes easy to brush over the fact that Wenger has been poor for some time, and has been visibly showing the signs of stress induced by failure.
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Post by Robin van Bergkamp on Jul 8, 2012 19:44:23 GMT
I think there is little chance of Wenger staying beyond 2014, and I do think he should be sent off with a warm goodbye for what he did in his early years, but make no mistake if he does not win a title in the next 2 years I would consider it a decade of failure from Wenger to end his career at Arsenal. May as well get it over and done with now I dare say. This is not an anti-Arsene remark, more an observation that under this policy and approach, all we can look forward to is 4th or at best 3rd place in the CL. I never as an arsenal supporter ever thought we as a club would entertain 3rd place as being akin to a trophy. Well one is poor, the other is simply scheming for his big boss, the majority shareholder. Both really need to consider other avenues. No, make that three to include that majority shareholder. |
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Post by Bergkamp a Dutch master on Jul 8, 2012 19:57:13 GMT
AW is stuck - stubborn over youth, paying high wages and long contracts for mediocrity, doubtful tactics (none at times) - coaching negligence (defence). Now he has a Board that he cannot really challenge - 2 years left !!! How on earth can he bang the table at this late stage?
What a bloody mess- it all hinges on the new guys, Wilshere coming back, and a defence sorting things out. Its not all gloom and doom.
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Post by Jayramfootball on Jul 8, 2012 20:16:31 GMT
I think Wilshere coming back is critical... Back to fulfill his potential. From what I have seen so far I truly believe he can become the best midfielder in the world and have the team built around him both for Arsenal and England.
It's a bit of a race against time though... He needs to come back and progress quickly because there is a real danger next year we will be left behind early again.
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